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by Scepcop » 02 Jun 2009, 22:18
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by Scepcop » 02 Jun 2009, 22:19
Here are some from Virginia City, Nevada, where I lived for 8 months. In the top photo, you will see some weird blue and white lines during a 4th of July fireworks show. It was taken with a disposable camera, and before the shot was taken, the camera was dropped in the wet grass, but I am not sure if that created this strange photo or caused two shots to overlap. The thing is, the blue and white lines appear to be in FRONT of the fireworks show. And they look flower shaped with dotted lines. Very weird. The bottom photo was taken during a magic show I did in the Pipers Opera House. It was also taken with a disposable camera. A blue orb appeared.
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by jamesbond » 03 Jun 2009, 22:12
Sometimes orbs can be specs of dust on the lens or dust or dirt particles in the air. From ghost hunting experts, only a small percentage of the time are they actually caused from spirits. It's really hard to determine if an orb is real or not.
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by quantumparanormal » 24 Aug 2009, 08:31
I'm afraid it's almost impossible to demonstrate that orbs are manifestations of spirits. It's difficult to rule out the natural explanations, such as dust, moisture, smoke, etc.
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by ProfWag » 25 Aug 2009, 00:23
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by Scepcop » 25 Aug 2009, 18:39
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by ProfWag » 25 Aug 2009, 20:03
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by ciscop » 26 Aug 2009, 00:44
this is the first time i get to see ¨orb ghosts¨ i didnt even knew that theme i have a bunch of photos like that it had never occured me i was capturing ¨orb ghosts¨ hahaha awesome, i like learning new stuff about the paranormal
to be honest quite frankly is quite dissapointing what pass as a ¨ghost¨ nowadays even in the beginnings of spiritism they tryed photomontages, now ¨that¨ is a ghost?
and scescop for us skeptics, the problem is that believers often jump way to soon to supernatural explanations before contemplating the possible and logical explanations and in this photo, the girl is not even watching the orb ghost, she is looking elsewhere so chances are it was invisible for the naked eye.
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by Scepcop » 26 Aug 2009, 09:15
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by Azrael » 27 Aug 2009, 00:57
Let me turn this topic on its head. Can someone state why theyc onsider those blobs to be ghosts or spirits. What logical deduction leads you to this conclusion? Also why didnt "orbs" manifest themselves beofre digital cameras?
I'm always very skeptical of any situation where someone's notability hinges on their connection to another notable person
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by ProfWag » 28 Aug 2009, 19:37
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by quantumparanormal » 31 Aug 2009, 02:28
It's still virtually impossible to link spirits to orbs in a causal, conclusive way. You might be able to find correlations between orbs and other anomalous evidence, but it's ultimately up to each person's bias to decide the causative elements involved (i.e., the thing, or things, causing the orbs to occur). In other words, correlation does not equal causation. This is why I discount the hypothesis that orbs are manifestations of spirits. We simply can't prove it.
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by Azrael » 31 Aug 2009, 06:58
Well I am a professional photographer and "orbs" faield to exist before digital cameras-cheap ones usually. Mine cost £3,000 and never produces orbs.
Anything appearing on camera has to reflect light,someone explain how a dead person's imaginary spirt reflects light! Dust and hair however do.
"It's still virtually impossible to link spirits to orbs in a causal, conclusive way"
It is however totally impossible to find any evidence of spirits,in any way.
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