Ghostplanes on 9/11? Interesting reasons and clues

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[SydneyPSIder]

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Why are 3,000 victims of 9/11 missing from Social Security death list?

http://www.dailyrepublic.com/usworld/why-are-3000-victims-of-911-missing-from-social-security-death-list/
http://www.courierpress.com/news/30pt-hed1-15-inches-of-story-goes-herep_20140612090716591

[ProfWag]

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[SydneyPSIder]

In response to the alleged 1,600 sets of identified remains:

I believe these are all faked results. First, once you consider that this was an inside job with the full complicity of a sector of government, you can no longer trust anything they say on the matter. It's easy for them to say they have matched DNA, but no-one saw the lab workers do it. No-one has seen any test results. Given that very few bodies seem to be in the debris, and it was entirely pancaked and squashed to a pulp, and the bulk of the steel columns were hastily taken away to a shipyard within a few days and sold to China for scrap without a forensic or metallurgical examination (which is actually illegal and disturbing the scene of a crime), and those beams may have supposedly had bits of people stuck to them, something apparently not of concern, how would you even obtain 1,600 unique DNA samples from anything? Bits of flesh? They scraped together bits of flesh? Then how do you go about figuring out whose DNA it even was, given that you don't have the whole population's DNA on a database somewhere. So it's all BULLSHIT. The reason they took the columns away was that there would have been traces of thermite style explosives, C4 plastic explosive and very obvious high temperature shearing lines on the columns along with other explosive ruptures. It's possible they might have done some token DNA matching on any human remains from the small number of real people unfortunate enough to have been trapped and killed in the buildings, but they would rather have saved the expense, given that it was an inside job with expected collateral casualties. They couldn't have gotten any DNA results from people supposedly in the planes, because the planes and passengers did not exist in the locations they were claimed to be.

Ditto in exactly the same fashion for the non-existent subterranean plane crash in PA that left no wreckage whatsoever, where the bribed coroner claimed he had to dig the plane and its contents out from underground and did another DNA matchup of everyone. BULLSHIT. No airliner crash in history has ever disappeared from sight underground, nose to tail, and left no visible wreckage on the ground. The supposed 'gash' the plane went into was an already existing geological feature present in earlier aerial photos. So a fake crash site. It is just possible to my mind that all the pax in the 4 quarter-full flights on that day had been landed and disembarked somewhere like the Ohio airport, told there was some sort of terrorist attempt or suspicion on their plane, herded into a building, then told they would be joining another flight that would take them to their original intended destination (LA etc). Then the 4 quarter-full quotas of passengers may have gotten on to a single plane that was intended to be crashed into something else with all pax on board to get rid of the human evidence and create a body count, but the USAF legitimately scrambled and shot down the airliner as a local base command decision, as I've heard, as it was also off course and word was out about hijackings. That is just possible. This would mean the plane was shot down in the air, distributing wreckage, bodies and luggage over the same general area in Shanksville, PA, as some eyewitnesses apparently reported, if you are to believe the reports. That's a different thing to disappearing in a gash in the ground without trace as per the highly unlikely official story. Other planes were active in the area, with an F-16 fighter type plane and an A-10 Warthog style plane both identified by appearance. This may have been done honestly and inadvertently by a local base command, screwing up whatever the original plan was. Or perhaps it was orchestrated from the outset, with the 'Let's roll' script ready to go, etc. Or perhaps the vast majority of pax were invented identities or spooks and there were just no plane fatalities. As noted, the families of people supposedly on the planes have said virtually nothing after the event, not demanded enquiries, not created a ruckus, etc. Sounds very much like the families in the Newtown incident, who all had their mortgages paid off in full a year earlier on Xmas Day, and not a single one has sued the local education authority for negligence, unlike the families at Columbine -- apart from a great deal of other evidence that suggests Newtown was a fake incident.

Finally the non-existent flight that didn't hit the Pentagon. No wreckage, no bodies, no luggage, the American authorities claim the whole lot was completely and utterly incinerated in a fiery inferno (although you can see undamaged pieces of paper sitting on desks in offices exposed by the explosion in many of the photos). They also claimed DNA matching. BULLSHIT. We know an airliner didn't hit the Pentagon. I still wonder what really happened to Barbara Olson, however.

The Social Security record 'dilemma' does not really concern me at all, and simply does not matter one way or the other. It's an irrelevancy in light of the other evidence.

Finally, I don't subscribe to any hologram theory or directed energy weapon theory, because we are simply not aware of any existing developed technology in this area. You do not need non-existent hologram technology or DEW technology to pull this stunt off. Those sorts of discussions are science fiction distractions and diversions, and sometimes deliberate ones, to try to make researchers look nutty. If it turns out an existing hologram can be made in full daylight that could fool people, great, but I am not aware of any such hologram technology being in existence, although I'm happy to be corrected. A few stage tricks have been done 'resurrecting' dead music performers on stage in a holographic way, but they require a large clear screen to be set up on stage to work as a projection device.

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[SydneyPSIder]

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77

8:20 am : Flight 77 departs from Dulles Airport. Some 20 miles from the Pentagon.

8:50 : Last radio communication with flight 77. Now some 280 miles from the Pentagon.

8:56 : Transponder contact lost. Now some 335 miles from the Pentagon.

9:00 : Flight 77 turns and heads for the Pentagon (Washington DC). Now some 370 miles away from the Pentagon.

The hijackers finally make their move (and about time, all the time they are getting further and further away from where they started, and of course, further and further away from where they are headed).

To give the Air National Guard/USAF a fighting chance the intrepid hijackers wait till they are about 400 miles away from their target before turning back.

But even though the hijackers are more than sporting about the whole affair (after all they have given the USAF over 40 minutes to get aircraft up to investigate, and if necessary, shoot them down) the totally incompetent (read corrupt) USAF isn't quite up to the job.

9:37 : AA77 crashes into the southwest side of the Pentagon. Now, precisely 0 miles from the Pentagon.

The question that you must ask yourself, is :

Why didn't the hijackers, hijack flight 77 when it was only, say, 30 miles from the Pentagon?

Well, lets have look at the evidence from another angle.
Flight 77 leaves Dulles International Airport at 8:20 am.
Flight 77's transponder is turned off at 8:56 am.
The fact that flight 77's transponder was turned off means only that the aircraft stopped transmitting its name and altitude, etc, but it was still very visible to radar.
Flight 77 disappears from all radar screens a couple of minutes later, somewhere near the Ohio border.
An aircraft appears on radar south of Washington DC, close to the city.
This aircraft eventually crashes into the Pentagon.
So the aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon could not possibly have been flight 77. This is simply because, if it had flown from the Ohio border back to Washington DC it would have been visible to radar for the entire trip. And, we are told that it was not. So given this, why do most people believe that flight 77 hit the Pentagon? Because the media told them so (and this is the one and only reason that most believe flight 77 hit the Pentagon). But the evidence (without even examining the Pentagon scene itself) already says that this is impossible.

The next question that you must ask yourself, is :

How did flight 77 sneak all the way from the Ohio border to Washington DC without being spotted by any of the multitude of radar stations in the area? The Russians are keen to know.

[... and see further information following about USAF stand down and normal interception practices and times.]

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/pentagon/what-hit-it.htm


This page sums up in one place pretty much all the damning evidence against the possibility of a passenger Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon at all. Chief suspect is a missile with a depleted uranium warhead for extra penetration right to Ring C producing the smoking hole we see in photos (equally well, there's no reason explosives couldn't have been planted in the building during renovations to try to mimic an impact, no matter how unconvincingly):

http://consciouslifenews.com/911-prove-airplane-hit-pentagon-major-general-albert-stubblebine/#

[ProfWag]

[ProfWag]

Unfortunately Syd, with the exception of Winston (whom I wouldn't brag about), your opinions don't seem to have a lot of support in this forum so I don't believe I'll be wasting my time even reading your unresearched opines.

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