Why Randi, CSICOP, Skeptics are contradictions

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I'm trying to find an online copy of persinger's paper - haven't found one not behind a pay wall - anyone have it?

Justin: do you think it possible to have a sensation of a feeling of a presence without there being an actual presence? Should we always assume that our feeling about the original of an experience is correct?

An example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNdM9JhTPJw

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You didn't answer my question: do you believe a person could perceive having a religious experience involving a deity without the deity actually existing? (to be clear- the concept of the deity exists, but not an actual deity).

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Forget about eye-witnesses and proof - we're talking hypothetically here: could the experience of a deity exist without an extant deity?

Or let's put it more directly in the context of the God-helmet: could people have the experience that persinger describes without there being an actual spirit or deity behind it (ie: without there being any cause other than electromagnetic waves pumped into the brain).

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