SCEPCOP Forum

Skeptics,
Galileo was not one of you, so quit that ridiculous claim to try to make yourselves look better. He was not an Atheist. And he challenged the establishment. You guys do NOT. And he believes in both science and God at the same time. You guys don't. So quit trying to make him out to be one of you. He would never have approved of the Randis and Shermers.

Same with Newton. He believed in God. None of these guys were Atheists.

So quit the scam.

you dont need to be an atheist to be a skeptic

Scepcop: I know you don't understand this but atheism and not challenging the establishment are not part of the definition of skepticism. And just because we're skeptical of some things, doesn't mean we apply it all 'round. Additionally, Newton, IIRC, attempted more than most people to try and get to god through rational thinking.

I'm happy to include them in the pantheon of skepticism.

By the way, why do you abandon so many threads just to start half a dozen new ones, that you'll soon abandon too? Are you not interested in spirited debate? Any true skeptic wants his idea challenged vigourously. It's the only way to see if they can withstand opposition.

By the way, Scepcop, can you change the setting where when someone else has posted while you write your post, when you press submit it doesn't send by rather asks you if you want to change your post? half the time I don't realise its done that and just assume my message was sent? We can look back up to see if people posted in the mean time. I'd rather risk missing reading a post than risk losing a post I've taken time to type up!

Actually I don't think Scepcop wants his ideas challenged.

I honestly can't remember anybody claiming that Galileo and/or Newton were athiests. I would consider it both odd and extrememely misinformed if such a claim was made. Newton in particular was a fervantly religious person and spent a good deal of time towards the end of his life trying to find some sort of mathimatical code in the bible tht would objectively prove the exsistence of God.

I am at a loss to discern what anyone would gain by claiming these two men were athiests. Skepcop, Can you give an example of someone claiming this? What were they trying to show with such a claim? In short, what is the scam you are referring to?

regards, Canis

But there are atheists who believe in the paranormal too. The ones who rule out or "rationalize" away the paranormal I give them the label materialistic atheist. Materialistic as in the philosophical definition of that, not meaning materialistic in behavior. Paranormal believing atheists I just call them non-materialistic atheists. I think all Buddhists would be non-materialistic atheists because their religions fully believes in ghosts.