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Re: Science and Technology vs. Religion

Postby spoirier » 11 Jan 2011, 23:21

What causes the most of the damage to life on Earth is neither science nor religion but the presence of humans.
Science could discover that many extinctions of living species occured since the presence of the homo genus, even before homo sapiens, that is, since about 2 million years. This is thought to be mainly due to human presence (though other factors, such as the alternance of glacial and interglacial periods and the Toba eruption, may have their role too). They are known as the and the .

Science is the discipline of remaining logical and discovering the truth even as concerns complex issues. But only a small minority of people really practice it.
Religions, on the other hand, are followed and practiced by a large majority.
Science is much more efficient and fruitful than religion, which is why it has a huge effect which leads many people to imagine that it dominates the world, despite its much smaller number of effective members (scientists).
In reality, science has never been in power.
It can only do what you want it to do. Scientists never received the mandate to rethink and reorganize our political and economic systems so as to truly serve the general interest.
Instead, people always decided that scientists should exclusively work at the service of this "liberal" or "democratic" system, to provide technologies to do what our institutions want them to do. These institutions are the fruit of a sort of evolution of institutions that developed and adapted so as to grow and keep their power in a world where most people are stupid. The only choice scientists had, was between serving these institutions or being jobless and excluded from society.
Then, how can anyone hold science responsible for the bad decisions made by a system of institions that decides everything and employ scientists, but that scientists cannot control in return ?
Now if you want to know what rational solutions can be found to solve the world's problem, you can check those I developed . For implementation, no institutional power or democratic mandate is needed, but only the work of a small team of web developers. Unfortunately, I could not even find that since years that I had this idea and I could convince many other rational people about it. And many people are not interested, either because they hate reason and intelligence and prefer to dedicate their life and efforts to their religious values, that is their cult of stupidity; or just because they prefer to obey the system to get a career.

Humans wanted science to help them out of poverty. So this happened. Mortality rates dropped, and the human population exploded.
Can you seriously claim this to be a damage caused by science, and that misery and poverty which were the general human fate until the last centuries, were a good thing ?

There are many humanitarian organizations who consider it awful that many people over the world are dying of starvation or diseases, so they develop all efforts they can, with the help of science, to avoid these horrible deaths, providing means of decent life to these people.
The result of this work, is that the human population of the world keeps growing, and needs to exploit more and more of the planet's resources for a decent living.
Now, can you tell who or what is at fault here ?
Can you go and tell to these humanitarian organizations that it is a wrong thing to help humans survive because overpopulation and decent means of living contribute to the destruction of life on Earth ?
It's not exactly the position I'm trying to defend, because, well, all these problems are very complex, but...

The fact is that many troubles come from the simplistic and illogical way of thinking of most people.
And science is just the opposite of that (getting out of this mental illness, for those who can). Unfortunately, most people do not care, and prefer to follow their unreason.
Generally, I developed long arguments why science does way better than religion in terms of morality and selflessness and .
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