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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

Postby SydneyPSIder » 28 Sep 2012, 22:42

In fact, I would recommend the entire 'Hard Facts' website presented as a high quality and well written book in 26 chapters, covering in detail most or all of the objections of the pseudosceptics here:

http://www.911hardfacts.com/index.htm


There is a whole matrix of information pointing to U.S. Government involvement in the planning and execution of September 11th. From the ominous writings of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), to the scores of so-called 'intelligence breakdowns', to the lack of military response and the comprehensive dismissal of standard operating procedures in reaction to a declared emergency, to the bizarre collapse of WTC 7, to the freefall speed and explosive collapse of the Towers, to the miraculous aeronautical maneuvering of the jets, to Dick Cheney's suspicious behavior in the underground bunker, and on and on. The incriminating data is there, and has been presented at length in this paper. The only thing keeping the truth about 9/11 from emerging is our collective desire to continue to spin the fairy tale we have been fed.

9/11 is a highly emotional subject. And people react to it in a highly emotional way. If all we have read and/or seen about September 11 are the images fed to us by the mass-media, and all we know about the story that those images tell is the framing of the events offered by the U.S. Government, then it is perhaps reasonable to think that 19 Arabs, under the direction of a crazed lunatic in a cave in the Middle East, used box cutters and guile to thwart a multi-trillion dollar defense apparatus. But any thorough consideration and investigation into the hard facts of 9/11 will unearth evidence that makes the 19 Arab hijacker narrative a wholly unreasonable consideration. But even so, this highly emotional subject proves difficult to discuss rationally and seriously. There seems to be some kind of emotional investment we have in believing what we have been told by our 'leaders', by the people in positions of authority over us. Or, perhaps, we do not have the emotional fortitude to bear the implications of being lied to and duped so easily and horrifically.

All of us - individuals and nations - have fictitious myths that we create, believe, and weave our identities into. We have all invented some aspect of ourselves, or the world, that we desperately want to believe, often despite ample evidence pointing to the absurdity and falseness of the created myth. This myth creation is some kind of defensive mechanism, used to evoke a sense of security in an insecure world, utilized to invoke a sense of personal worth in an often brutal and uncaring world. And while the psychology behind this myth making is an interesting and worthy topic for another essay, the principal subject of this paper is the fact that we have dramatically animated and amplified one of these myths. And it has metastasized into an out of control force that is wreaking havoc in our own country, and across the globe.

Unfortunately, the actual facts, context, and details of what it was that truly took place that day have been swallowed by the force and momentum of what is now perhaps the largest American myth that exists; i.e. the story that 19 Arab hijackers, under the exclusive direction of Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden, and fueled by a religiously driven fundamental hatred and jealousy of American values, blind-sided and plunged an unforeseen dagger into the heart of American democracy, freedom, and innocence.
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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

Postby Misha » 29 Sep 2012, 15:07

Guys, I've got to say SydneyPSIder has done his homework. I agree with much of his research and analysis. I do not think SydneyPSIder is being unreasonable and that he is trying to explore what so few people will talk about. Just my two cents, guys.
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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

Postby Misha » 30 Sep 2012, 00:45

No, Really. SydneyPSIder is not a "Conspiracy theorist." At least not how the majority of people perceive the word. From my vantage point, SydeyPSIder is an excellent "cognitive patternist." So, I will say in the future that Sydney is a CPer.
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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

Postby Misha » 30 Sep 2012, 03:32

Hi ProfWay,

Give this a read. It comes from the GAO:

http://www.fas.org/man/gao/gao9476.htm


NORAD defines air sovereignty as providing surveillance and control
of the territorial airspace, which includes:

intercepting and destroying uncontrollable air objects;

tracking hijacked aircraft;

assisting aircraft in distress;

escorting Communist civil aircraft; and

intercepting suspect aircraft, including counterdrug operations and
peacetime military intercepts.

Of these tasks, NORAD considers intercepting drug smugglers the most
serious. Under 10 U.S.C. 124, DOD is designated the single lead
agency for detecting and monitoring air and maritime shipments of
illegal drugs to the United States.\1

DOD gave NORAD the responsibility for intercepting suspected airborne
drug smugglers. However, only 7 percent of NORAD fighter intercepts
from 1989-92 were drug related (see table I.1).

NORAD plans to reduce the number of alert sites in the continental
United States to 14 and provide 28 aircraft for the day-to-day
peacetime air sovereignty mission. Each alert site will have two
fighters, and their crews will be on 24-hour duty and ready to
scramble within 5 minutes.


Now, fly over a sensitive military site within the continental United States at any time, especially before 9/11. Would you be intercepted? Do military planes scramble and intercept UFOs within the continental United States? Say a nuclear device is accidentally launched or a wayward rogue military jet is off track, would NORAD and interception happen?

As for finding the truth with Sydney's research on interception should be looked at. I have no problem with this at all. However, I do have a problem when one engages in bathwaterism and throws out his research entirely. Sydney "overall" has done his homework. If he or I are wrong about something than I have to be honest and say so. Remember, ProfWag. Douglas P. Horne was wrong when he thought the Bethesda hospital report was partially based on the doctors finding out about James Tague's injury. Horne came back and admitted his faux pas. However, this did not undermine Horne's thesis nor his overall homework on the assassination.
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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

Postby Arouet » 30 Sep 2012, 05:11

heh- "bathwaterism" - I like that!
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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

Postby Misha » 30 Sep 2012, 07:16

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Re: Sign these petitions for a new REAL 9/11 investigation!

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