Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?

[FatFreddy]

Here's another.
http://historyimages.blogspot.com.es/20 ... oland.html

[FatFreddy]

At the 1:03:50 time mark of this video we are told what Hitler's offer of peace to England was during the battle of Britain.

"Firestorm Over Dresden (full)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhFLTP5 ... _BgDDWQzBz

Go back to the 57:25 time mark to see more details.

[FatFreddy]

Listen to what this guy says about the twenty five hundred people being gassed at the same time at the 1:00 time mark of this video.

Holocaust Lies by three brothers (cousins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vWPemwUFI

Now watch this video.

Robert Faurisson The Problem Of Gas Chambers Le Probleme Des Chambres a Gaz FRA avec ENG SUB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fk7NVnOu0Y

When a testimony contradicts science, the testimony is obviously bogus.

[Scepcop]

It is true that what we are told about WWII is very one-sided. There are two sides to every story. However, a lot of these revisionist history documentaries and websites are also very one-sided and cherry pick the info they want.

Some of them try to portray Hitler as a saint who did no wrong. That's going too far.

Hitler did have good reasons for invading Poland. But why then after that, did he go on to invade many more countries, and pulverized Warsaw, the capitol of Poland? The revisionists have no way of justifying that.

Hitler said he wanted peace, not war. But then why did he attack so many countries, especially Russia, where he invaded with the largest army in world history, comprised of 3 million troops.

It is true that Hitler wanted peace with England, but Churchill refused though. The US media is unfair to not let that be known.

Yeah the Holocaust may be exaggerated. But there are way too many witnesses of the gas chambers for it to have been untrue. Many of the witnesses are credible. And what about all the videos of bodies there?

The Nazis did do terrible things. So why would it be above them to carry out the Holocaust?

Wasn't there a document found at Wannsee about a secret meeting where they discussed the Final Solution? It was dramatized in this film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266425/

[ProfWag]

[SydneyPSIder]

[Scepcop]

I was wondering something. Hitler's invasion of Russia, called Operation Barbarossa, involved 3 or 4 million Nazi troops. It was the largest invasion force in the history of the world. I wonder what would have happened if Hitler had instead used that huge army to secure his conquests in Europe. If he had used all those men to protect his European territories from US or British invasion forces, then he might have had more time to be the first to develop the atomic bomb. If that happened, maybe he would have won WWII or at least extend it longer.

I don't get why he squandered all those precious forces, after working hard to build them up, in Russia. I guess he needed the oil in the Caucus mountains to run the Nazi empire.

On another topic:

Some conspiracy people are now saying that Hitler brought Germany to prosperity again by not borrowing from the central bankers at interest, and having the German bank issue its own currency. They claim that WWII was started by the bankers because they could not tolerate Hitler's dissent.

If that's true though, then why does Hitler not mention that in any of his speeches, which are recorded and transcribed? Does he ever mention that in his speeches? That the war was started by the bankers who were mad that he didn't borrow money from them at interest? If that was the real reason, he would have known and said something about it. Even conspiracy views have plotholes in them.

[SydneyPSIder]

"I don't get why he squandered all those precious forces, after working hard to build them up, in Russia. I guess he needed the oil in the Caucus mountains to run the Nazi empire. "

Yes, I guess so. He was insane, a megalomaniac, and felt that just by shouting he could fight two difficult wars on two fronts at the same time. But knew he needed natural resources to do it.

"They claim that WWII was started by the bankers because they could not tolerate Hitler's dissent. "

I didn't know bankers could do that. Germany's prosperity was created by the efforts of its people in industry.

[Scepcop]

Maybe we should have a history board for these kind of topics.

Here is an article that explains in detail Hitler's reasons and strategies for invading Russia, and what his mistakes were. It's very interesting.

http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/ww ... ussia.aspx

I wonder what would have happened if he had captured Moscow. Would he have captured Stalin too? Or would Stalin have escaped? In chess, you go for the king to end the game, so why didn't Hitler think that way?

[SydneyPSIder]

[FatFreddy]

I haven't checked here for a long time.

The first video in my last post is off-line. Here's another one that explains the point being made. Start watching at the 4:55 time mark.

Tehran Holocaust Conference 2006: Prof. Robert Faurisson - Victories of Revisionism - part 2/2 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne3nYJxU6SM

He explains that the way history tell us that the workers removed the bodies from the gas chamber would have been technically impossible. If this can't be disproved, it closes the whole case.

The subject is touched on at the 5:55 time mark of this video too.
Robert Faurisson The Problem Of Gas Chambers Le Probleme Des Chambres a Gaz FRA avec ENG SUB - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... ec+ENG+SUB


Here's a video on the possible real causes for WW1 that I came across.

The REAL reason for World War 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9oRiUr3XIo

[FatFreddy]

I just came across this.

How Edward VII Started World War 1 - Webster Tarpley in 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUHIZQLMo-0

I just started watching it. This guy Webster Tarpley seems pretty objective when he talks about other things. That's why I'm posting this without having watched it first.

[SydneyPSIder]

I've just come across an interesting article about oil, the middle east, WWI, Germany, Britain, the Ottoman empire, etc, in a similar vein. It also informs the current middle eastern mess.

Oil and the origins of the ‘War to make the world safe for Democracy’

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/H ... orld_w.HTM

So perhaps the topic should also include 'Were We Told the Truth about World War 1' as a starting point?

[FatFreddy]

I think it's a good idea to start with WW1.

Here are some books I've known about for a while but haven't read.
http://eindtijdinbeeld.nl/EiB-Bibliothe ... _1928_.pdf
http://books.google.es/books?id=Lz8vNz4 ... ng&f=false
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/script ... index.html
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/ ... %20War.pdf

[FatFreddy]

I made a mistake three posts back.

I posted the wrong video. The second video I wanted to post was this one.

Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth - HD (full)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Kl6RHKIQk
(5:55 time mark)

One of the supposed workers who supposedly dragged the bodies out of the supposed gas chambers explains how he supposedly did it.

Sorry for the confusion.