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SCEPCOP Forum Scientific Committee to Evaluate PseudoSkeptic Criticism of the Paranormal 2010-10-14T04:33:20+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/feed.php?f=4&t=601 2010-10-14T04:33:20+08:00 2010-10-14T04:33:20+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=17144#p17144 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> By "truth" most people mean "What I believe!"
It can also mean phenomenal "fact", like an apple falling, or day and night.
Beyond phenomena, there are thoughts, like "the sun rises" or "the earth rotates". The former appears to be phenomenally true from our earthbound perspective, if we have never thought about a ship sailing off the horizon. The later appears to be more phenomenally true from more perspectives. This is
"scientific" truth.
Beyond this we eventually reach logical truth, a system of premises that are self-consistent, but need have no connection to phenomena. In all my life, I think I have found only four "premises" that cohere into a logical set and have the adding virtue of being referential to physical phenomena.
wjbeaty said
"I like to say that Truth is fuzzy and variable and impossible to pin down, but it's also utterly simple. Truth is what's left behind after you stop lying."
A beautifully human definition. Problem is, all language is only a model, and thus false to fact in some way. I talk of factoids and beliefs, and distinguish between that which is probably accurate, probably not, and intentional falsehoods. Only the last are "lies" and quite a lot of error remains after it is removed. Peace

Statistics: Posted by Twain Shakespeare — 14 Oct 2010, 04:33

]]> 2010-05-07T04:35:53+08:00 2010-05-07T04:35:53+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=13308#p13308 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> I also find it telling that you won't except an authoritative point of view even if that view is from a person from your own side. It seems the only point of view that's right is yours.

I'll clue you in on one of the concepts that drives the skeptical community. It is to understand the universe as it actually is not how we wish it to be no matter how satisfying and reassuring that may be.

Statistics: Posted by really? — 07 May 2010, 04:35

]]> 2010-05-07T03:20:23+08:00 2010-05-07T03:20:23+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=13306#p13306 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> Statistics: Posted by jakesteele — 07 May 2010, 03:20

]]> 2010-05-05T20:26:24+08:00 2010-05-05T20:26:24+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=13232#p13232 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> Statistics: Posted by really? — 05 May 2010, 20:26

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Closure is a popular psychology term. It refers to a conclusion to a traumatic event or experience in a person's life. The term became popular in the 1990s due to its use in the popular media. The term cognitive closure has been defined as to "a desire for definite knowledge on some issue and the eschewal of confusion and ambiguity."[1] Need for closure is a phrase used by psychologists to describe an individual’s desire for a firm solution as opposed to enduring ambiguity.
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[edit] Need For Closure Scale (NFCS)

The need for closure varies across individuals, situations, and cultures. A person with a high need for closure prefers order and predictability and is decisive and close minded. This person also feels discomfort from ambiguity.[2] Someone rating low on need for closure will express more ideational fluidity and emit more creative acts.[3]

The Need for Closure Scale (NFCS) was developed by Arie Kruglanski, Donna Webster, and Adena Klem in 1993. Items on the scale include statements such as “I think that having clear rules and order at work is essential to success.” and “I do not like situations that are uncertain”. Items such as “Even after I’ve made up my mind about something, I am always eager to consider a different opinion.” and “I like to have friends who are unpredictable” are reversed scored.[4] This scale is composed of 42 items and has been used in numerous research studies and has been translated into multiple languages. In 2007, Roets and Van Hiel revised the scale to resolve the psychometric problems and obtain a stable, one-dimensional scale.[5]

The Need for Closure Scale exhibits low to moderate association with the following: “authoritarianism, intolerance of ambiguity, dogmatism, need for cognition, cognitive complexity, impulsivity, need for structure, and fear of invalidity, while retaining considerable distinctiveness from those various constructs”.[6]. It does not appear to be related with the intelligence level nor social desirability concerns.

It is a very fundamentalist mindset that experiences Existential pain at the uncertain and ambiguous nature of Life, the Universe and Everything.

Statistics: Posted by jakesteele — 05 May 2010, 08:12

]]> 2010-04-15T22:27:15+08:00 2010-04-15T22:27:15+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=12723#p12723 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> SPAM... I'm all for outing our friend at this point... too much immaturity and I kind of like the guy, but enough is enough!

Statistics: Posted by Craig Browning — 15 Apr 2010, 22:27

]]> 2010-04-14T22:25:56+08:00 2010-04-14T22:25:56+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=12706#p12706 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> Statistics: Posted by Nostradamus — 14 Apr 2010, 22:25

]]> 2010-04-14T19:20:39+08:00 2010-04-14T19:20:39+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=12700#p12700 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]>

Randi reveals in his outing statement a lifetime of deception and anger toward "intolerant society" and its "holy books"

Complaining about society intolerance, while being extremely intolerant toward religions, himself.
It certainly suggests a motivation for much of his irrational attacks on Religions.
Christopher Hitchins another world famour atheist has just confessed to homosexual practices.
So the top echelon of miltant atheists have always been closet gays. Food for thought.
So thats one possibiilty for what drives SOME pseudoskeptics.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/03/whos-got-next.html

Statistics: Posted by stevetrueblue — 14 Apr 2010, 19:20

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Almost simultaneuosly Christopher Hitchins owns up to Homosoexual practices.

This could be the death of The New Atheism.

Randi in his outing speech blames holy books and "intolerant society" for his lifelong concealed grief and resultant anger. It also explains his war against religions. With the two leading skeptics confessing to their likely dishonest motivations we only need wait for Dawkins to fess up. Its likely some of Randis followers, miltant atheists are also grief stricken angry latent gays.
It would explain much of their irrational anger. One militant atheist has already been caught viewing GAY PORN on Youtube. HONEST. There is a video.... of the discovery.......

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/03/whos-got-next.html

Statistics: Posted by stevetrueblue — 14 Apr 2010, 17:19

]]> 2010-01-28T02:46:00+08:00 2010-01-28T02:46:00+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=9576#p9576 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> Statistics: Posted by ProfWag — 28 Jan 2010, 02:46

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"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all."

If skeptics believe that paranormalists and alternative therapists are "thinking wrongly", at least we are thinking.

Statistics: Posted by Kevin Kane — 28 Jan 2010, 01:26

]]> 2010-01-27T20:10:37+08:00 2010-01-27T20:10:37+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=9570#p9570 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> Statistics: Posted by ProfWag — 27 Jan 2010, 20:10

]]> 2010-01-27T09:39:43+08:00 2010-01-27T09:39:43+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=601&p=9565#p9565 <![CDATA[Re: what exactly drives the skeptical ??]]> Statistics: Posted by Kevin Kane — 27 Jan 2010, 09:39

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