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SCEPCOP Forum Scientific Committee to Evaluate PseudoSkeptic Criticism of the Paranormal 2012-12-08T02:28:53+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/feed.php?f=21&t=1180 2012-12-08T02:28:53+08:00 2012-12-07T19:19:12+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=28815#p28815 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by graham77 — 07 Dec 2012, 19:19

]]> 2010-05-29T04:36:36+08:00 2010-05-29T04:36:36+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13745#p13745 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> i own cellini´s dvds
he does knows how to work the crowd
and my favorite TOD would be David Regal.

and yeah.. you are right, there´s way too many people doing gazzo stuff
but his cups and balls is one of my favorite routines i do not perform.

in other topics.. is gotta be great owning a magic store
that means you do get to know what´s the stuff right?.. my garage is full of expensive worthless toys i used once and then realized it wasnt for me. looked great on the promo and then opened up the box.. and... the trick was on me..
have you ever got a device and then said to the inventor.. dude.. this thing sucks, i cant sell it?

Statistics: Posted by ciscop — 29 May 2010, 04:36

]]> 2010-05-29T04:26:44+08:00 2010-05-29T04:26:44+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13744#p13744 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by mmreed — 29 May 2010, 04:26

]]> 2010-05-29T04:17:38+08:00 2010-05-29T04:17:38+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13743#p13743 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by ciscop — 29 May 2010, 04:17

]]> 2010-05-29T04:06:41+08:00 2010-05-29T04:06:41+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13742#p13742 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by mmreed — 29 May 2010, 04:06

]]> 2010-05-29T03:51:34+08:00 2010-05-29T03:51:34+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13741#p13741 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by ciscop — 29 May 2010, 03:51

]]> 2010-05-29T03:43:42+08:00 2010-05-29T03:43:42+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13740#p13740 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by mmreed — 29 May 2010, 03:43

]]> 2010-05-29T03:19:47+08:00 2010-05-29T03:19:47+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13739#p13739 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by ciscop — 29 May 2010, 03:19

]]> 2010-05-29T03:04:00+08:00 2010-05-29T03:04:00+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13738#p13738 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by mmreed — 29 May 2010, 03:04

]]> 2010-05-29T02:22:29+08:00 2010-05-29T02:22:29+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13737#p13737 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by ciscop — 29 May 2010, 02:22

]]> 2010-05-29T02:08:32+08:00 2010-05-29T02:08:32+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13736#p13736 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by mmreed — 29 May 2010, 02:08

]]> 2010-05-29T01:44:05+08:00 2010-05-29T01:44:05+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13735#p13735 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by ciscop — 29 May 2010, 01:44

]]> 2010-05-29T01:21:23+08:00 2010-05-29T01:21:23+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13734#p13734 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> Statistics: Posted by mmreed — 29 May 2010, 01:21

]]> 2010-05-29T00:24:46+08:00 2010-05-29T00:24:46+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13732#p13732 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]> i love magic
but i do laugh when i read about this notion of ¨ethics¨ in magic
i used to treasure my magic books
but now kids post the secrets on youtube and there´s people sharing every dvd and pdf on torrents
i remember seeing Daryl´s vhs tape, where he was doubting of teaching the double lift because it was such a strong move.. and now you have kids teaching it for free!..
so i really dont care about the secrets anymore, i know that after a performance it is inevitable that some people will google what i did and find it.. but who cares???

and like i said
i will only bust balls if they are calling themselves a psychic without a disclaimer
because there´s no such thing as a psychic, it is only people doing tricks of the trade
that for me is stepping over the line, so screw them all

and i am only posting this youtube clip, which is really funny to watch
cause craig browning called me names (i am really sensitive) and threaten to sue me which is going way to far!

it isnt an ego thing
i just find it really funny

by the way.. this is a 15k illusion??
peter loughran and christopher taylor sell illusions way cheaper and way more interesting for me (at least)
i think this illusion is a little bit overpriced now that it has been exposed in AGT.
look at this
i saw it live and i loved it

Statistics: Posted by ciscop — 29 May 2010, 00:24

]]> 2010-05-28T22:34:34+08:00 2010-05-28T22:34:34+08:00 https://debunkingskeptics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1180&p=13730#p13730 <![CDATA[Re: Whats worst for a magician? exposure or a bad performer]]>
And again, I refer you to my first post regarding this video.

It seems you have an ego that needs severe stroking, but I ask that you consider re-evaluating your stance on seeking it in this manner. You are doing nothing but disservice to the magic community by "passing along this exposure".

Those that conduct themselves with class and ethics see this, and it only makes you look bad...

If you think it is perfectly acceptable, I suggest you speak with Marc DeSouzza, chairman of ethics for the SAM, or with Denny Haney - a long time respected magician and historian of magic. Maybe speak with Mark Kalin... or any of the serious pros... I think you will find every one of them would ask that you stop in this childish viral promotion of exposure and that you simply passing along the link is just as bad as exposure itself.

If you choose to spit in the face of the community and the ethics of wanting to safeguard the secrets of the arts - then that speaks volumes about you as not only a magician, but a person as well.

Step up and be confident in doing what it right.

Statistics: Posted by mmreed — 28 May 2010, 22:34

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